Re: Military in or out?

From: arona1 (arona1@em8s.com)
Date: Sat Feb 24 2001 - 22:54:05 MST


Greetings,
I'm sorry but I do not trust them.

Regards,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Goertzel" <ben@webmind.com>
To: <sl4@sysopmind.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 9:37 PM
Subject: RE: Military in or out?

>
> I have recently had meetings with several individuals associated with the
US
> intelligence establishment,
> and interested in AI. Thus, I think I can gauge the level of their
interest
> in, and knowledge of,
> superintelligence moderately accurately.
>
> It seems to me that the intelligence establishment (CIA, NSA, various
> associated national research labs) has invested
> somewhat in a number of highly specific AI components, but has no R&D
> program oriented toward producing a generally
> intelligent system.
>
> However, their lines of questioning
> did not suggest to me that their own work on general AI is particularly
> advanced. Of course, they could have been
> covering up, but some of these people were scientists who didn't appear to
> have tremendous skills in manipulating
> their own personal presentation, tone of voice, etc.
>
> What they want to do with Webmind Inc. is to perhaps use our current
> products as components within some of
> their internal products (whether this will happen, or whether we're
> interested in doing this, is not yet decided).
> They'll watch the progress of our main AI Engine project, and once the
thing
> is finally fully functional, I'm sure
> they'll be among the first customers for it. (and even if we don't want
> them to, they'll obtain it through some
> shell corporation...)
>
> -- ben
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com [mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf
> > Of arona1
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 11:56 PM
> > To: sl4@sysopmind.com
> > Subject: Re: Military in or out?
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> > What is it that makes you believe that the military does not know
> > MORE than
> > the rest of us ? If you were the military, wouldn't you have spent
untold
> > money and research on it ? For the last 15-20 years ? If they knew how
to
> > create earthquakes in the mid 70's, what would they stop at ?
> > Underestimating them might not be a viable option.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Arona Ndiaye,
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Bostrom" <nick@nickbostrom.com>
> > To: <sl4@sysopmind.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:24 PM
> > Subject: Military in or out?
> >
> >
> > > I recently corresponded with a military analyst about the artificial
> > > intelligence and SI. But it made me wonder, what are people's view
here
> > > about the desirability of maximizing or minimizing awareness in the
U.S.
> > > military establishment about the implications of
> > superintelligence? My own
> > > inclination (which I'm not 100% confident in) is that they ought to
know
> > > about it; and the same goes for nanotechnology.
> > >
> > > Nick Bostrom
> > > Department of Philosophy
> > > Yale University
> > > Homepage: http://www.nickbostrom.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>



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