From: Ben Goertzel (ben@goertzel.org)
Date: Fri Mar 01 2002 - 10:36:28 MST
a) Somehow, my friend, I do manage to get a lot of things done, in spite of
blowing 30 minutes or so each day (lately) on semi-frivolous e-mails...
b) Although some of Eliezer's statements may have the *form* of religious
dogma, their content is actually quite different
And now I think I will shut down my e-mail program for a while and focus on
getting actual work done...
-- ben g
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com [mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf
> Of Jason Duncan
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:42 AM
> To: sl4@sysopmind.com
> Subject: Re: New Novamente team members sought...
>
>
> hey thats great
> ive got a hell of a sense of humor too
> but technology is no place for religous dogma
> how is anything going to ever get done ? ? ?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Goertzel" <ben@goertzel.org>
> To: <sl4@sysopmind.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:40 AM
> Subject: RE: New Novamente team members sought...
>
>
> >
> > No cult, and not even any real madness (now that Deacon Kuhns signed off
> ;)
> > ... just some eccentric overbright nerds having a good time and
> > competing/cooperating to create a new order of being.
> >
> > You'd have to read the SL4 archives to understand the full
> meaning of such
> > things as Eliezer's "oath" e-mail. Of course, reading those archives
> might
> > be an unacceptable painful experience ;>
> >
> > Eliezer has some deeply-felt and deeply-thought-out but rather extreme
> > attitudes about how we should approach bringing the Singularity
> about, on
> a
> > personal and ethical level.
> >
> > Over the last year, my mild disagreement with his extreme attitudes has
> > provoked some fairly intense dialogues, which to me have mostly been on
> the
> > level of "chats I'd have after work over a beer .. or after a few
> > beers..." -- but which sometimes have revealed some interesting
> > philosophical points.
> >
> > On the other hand, every now and then some meaningful scientific,
> technical
> > or philosophical issues pop up on the list as well.
> >
> > Don't worry, I'm not actually going to slaughter my offspring or anyone
> > else, no need to call the cops ;->
> >
> > And if there is a ritual in which Eli dresses himself in a black hooded
> > cape, goes out into a wheat field at midnight, arranges goats in a
> pentagram
> > and then slaughters them, while repeating the Singularitarian Oath ...
> well,
> > I haven't found out about it yet.
> >
> > Of course, maybe that's just because I refused to take the oath ;>
> >
> >
> > -- Ben G
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sl4@sysopmind.com
[mailto:owner-sl4@sysopmind.com]On Behalf
> > Of Jason Duncan
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:49 AM
> > To: sl4@sysopmind.com
> > Subject: Re: New Novamente team members sought...
> >
> >
> > have i stumbled into a mad house? or a cult?
> >
> > just what is going on here?
> >
> >
> >
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