Re: 6 points about Coherent Extrapolated Volition

From: H C (lphege@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 24 2005 - 18:10:37 MDT


>But I am
>worried here, because, quite frankly, "Collective
>Volition" sounds like a monster movie.

Eliezer's a pretty smart person. We can all agree on that. The main
contingency of CV is the entire idea of making our future NOT "like a
monster movie". You have to have some understanding that Eli can describe an
idea based on that intention that doesn't completely subvert it. hehe.

Oh, and it may help JUST A LITTLE BIT to actually read it.

:)

- Th3 Hegem0n

>From: p3 <rm3cpp@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: sl4@sl4.org
>To: sl4@sl4.org
>Subject: Re: 6 points about Coherent Extrapolated Volition
>Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--- "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <sentience@pobox.com>
>wrote:
> >
> > 6. THE CEV BY ITSELF DOES NOT MESS AROUND WITH YOUR
> > LIFE. THE CEV JUST
> > DECIDES WHICH AI TO REPLACE ITSELF WITH.
> >
>
>Alright, quick comment from me: I am not a very
>intelligent human being. I do not know much
>philosophy. I have not yet read the massive chunk of
>text at singinst called "Collective Volition," because
>I do not have the time to do so. My ability to argue
>anything meaningful on any side of this discussion is
>effectively nil.
>
>That being said, I am still deeply interested in the
>future course of my existence, which I think, contrary
>to the beliefs of most of the world, is directly
>connected to the Singularity and to the actions of the
>humans composing the Singularity Institute.
>
>And so, the one weak, fragile, human question I dare
>ask in the wake of all this confusing erudite
>prattling: If CEV itself does not mess around with my
>life, will its *results* mess around with my life? In
>a 1000 years from now, will I be able to choose for
>myself what I want to do with my life? I may not be
>asking these questions if I had actually read the CV
>document, and I apologize for my ignorance. But I am
>worried here, because, quite frankly, "Collective
>Volition" sounds like a monster movie.
>
>As I said, I do not know much philosophy. But I know
>that if in a post-Singularity world I cannot simply
>sit somewhere by myself and play guitar for a few
>millenia, then something has gone wrong. Perhaps
>someone can ease my troubled mind... or trouble it
>further, who knows.
>
>(I'll be donating the required $10 to the Singularity
>Institute soon)
>
>The earth laughs in flowers. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
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