Re: Hempel's paradox redux

From: Richard Loosemore (
Date: Thu Sep 15 2005 - 16:53:36 MDT

I agree entirely!

If this were a discussion on a mailing list about AGI or the
Singularity, rather than a mailing list devoted to the mathematics of
probability, I owuld say this was farcical.

Oh, whoops......

Richard Loosemore

Russell Wallace wrote:
> On 9/15/05, *Eliezer S. Yudkowsky* <
> <>> wrote:
> Actually, I also need to specify that at least one nonblack object is
> known to exist in every possible world; along with the requirement that,
> in at least one possible world containing nonblack ravens, the ratio of
> these nonblack ravens to all other nonblack objects does not approach
> zero; and the requirement that the proposition "All ravens are black"
> not initially have prior probability equal to zero; in order for my
> general conclusion to hold that randomly sampling a nonblack object and
> finding it to be a nonraven ALWAYS increases the probability assigned to
> the proposition "All ravens are black." (Assuming I haven't missed any
> other necessary assumptions.)
> You also need to assume the world has no structure.
> Suppose in real life you looked around at random, saw a white speck, and
> on closer inspection found it to be a white crow. That's a nonblack
> nonraven, but it would actually count as strong evidence _against_ the
> proposition that all ravens are black: crows and ravens are closely
> related, and if the one species can produce the occasional albino, the
> other probably can too.
> - Russell

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