Re: META: IQ distributions

From: Remy Webb (
Date: Fri Nov 25 2005 - 13:00:19 MST

With respect to lucid dreaming, I find it easiest to talk about it and think about it as the last thing I do before I sleep. Somewhere in my mind something clicks while I'm asleep then I get to play God over a very good virtual reality. The problem is becoming too aware -- to the point were you may awaken. Realizing I'm asleep,(though in complete control), seems to help me keep focus. I developed enough focus over the years to perform dream re-entry and pick up where I had left off before I awakened. It's some strange gift which is probably just a coping mechanism. My I.Q. averages in the 130's, I have several degrees and certifications in different fields but I have yet to find a single project to concentrate fully on which helps me realize that I'm not that smart after at all.

Thomas Buckner <> wrote: I googled about a bit, and:
Watson: 122 IQ
Crick: 115
Feynman: 124
"Winning a Nobel Prize is no big deal, but
winning it with an IQ of 124 is really
--Richard Feynman
The earlier post about Einstein and his
blackboard hit the nail on the head: he achieved
relativity theory by obsessing about it "like a
dog worrying a bone." It's what you do with what
you have.
By comparison, former NH governor and White House
chief of staff John Sununu reputedly has a 180 IQ
and eidetic memory (both of which I would kill
for) but somehow managed to be an utter fool in
my estimation (among other follies, circa 1990 he
ran a climate sim on his home computer, which
couldn't have been much better than a 386 with a
couple megs of ram, and decided global warming
wasn't for real! When real climatologists running
supercomputers weren't willing to place total
faith in their sims.) If there's a better parable
illustrating that IQ-isn't-everything, I'd like
to hear it.

Furthermore, a number tells you nothing about
what sort of mental skills a person might have:
there's a guy I work with at the post office;
once I was telling him about lucid dreaming,
which Stephen LaBerge had recently proved in the
sleep lab to be a real phenomenon. Very few
people can do it regularly (I only managed it
briefly, once or twice; it was astounding! Like
the best virtual reality you could have. In lucid
dreams, you really can fly.) Tad, my co-worker,
said "Oh, you mean awake dreams? I have those all
the time! You have to be careful, if you get too
excited you wake up." I told him that was like
being able to throw a baseball at 100 miles an
hour, and not realizing that's special.

Tom Buckner

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