Re: Two draft papers: AI and existential risk; heuristics and biases

From: Bill Hibbard (test@demedici.ssec.wisc.edu)
Date: Thu Jun 15 2006 - 11:55:33 MDT


Actually Robin, there are lot of people who you can stop
reading. No one knows the algorithms that give rise to
intelligence in brain, and there are lots of folks who
believe that brains are reinforcement learners.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Robin Lee Powell wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 09:06:08AM -0500, Bill Hibbard wrote:
> > From my first writings about AI I picked RL as my model for how
> > brains work in part because it is open ended and there is much
> > that I don't know about how brains work. Thus it is unfair for you
> > to base your demonstration of failure of my ideas on some
> > particular algorithm that I never claimed as adequate for
> > intelligence.
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > > "Reinforcement learning" gives rise to "intelligence";
> >
> > The RL paradigm , with currently unknown algorithms, gives rise to
> > intelligence.
>
> Ah!
>
> Thank you very much, Bill.
>
> You've conclusively proven that your thinking is sloppy, and that
> you don't care that your thinking is sloppy (since you are willing
> to make absolute claims about things you admit you don't
> understand).
>
> I thank you, as this saves me from having to read you any more. I
> try to give AI people the benefit of the doubt that they might be on
> to something for as long as I can; having someone remove themselves
> from the pool saves me a bunch of trouble.
>
> -Robin
>
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