From: Tennessee Leeuwenburg (email@example.com)
Date: Wed Aug 09 2006 - 21:12:14 MDT
Charles D Hixson wrote:
> Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote:
>> Charles D Hixson wrote:
>>> Mary Tobias wrote:
>>>> Ben Goertzel wrote:
>>> of Charles Stross commentary on that. Or look at the lists of Hugo
>>> winners. This is going to mean that a lot of the development is
>>> moving to other countries. Other reasons are always given as to
>>> why, but I suspect those reasons of being derivative rather than
>>> primary. So what's happening now is that the current top dog is
>>> trying to freeze the future into a mirror of the present...and
>>> destroying the present in the process. May we live through this.
>> Oh sigh. It's very U.S.-centric to consider it the top dog in its
>> class. I don't know what standards you want to use, but I wouldn't
>> consider the U.S. the "best" country in any sense. I don't know that
>> I ever have. Ditto the so-called growth of so-called fundamentalist
>> religion. What do you use to justify this claim, and against what
>> other periods of history are you comparing, and why are your samples
>>> I don't know how I feel about the possibility of living in a
>>> universe where I die as well as live whenever I cross the
>>> street...but then I'm not sure how I feel about living in a
>>> simulation either, or being a tool for the Escaton.
>> Huh -- you probably live in one already.
> Sorry, but I was speaking of the viewpoint taken by political
> leaders. That doesn't totally mean "traditional military", but it
> sure has a large component of that. We can hope that the next turn of
> the wheel takes place along a different axis, as I don't think we
> could survive too many military standoffs like the last 50 years
> (well, 40 of the last 50 years). If you want a look at that thinking,
> look at who in the US is funding robots. Now look at who in Japan.
> See the difference?
Oh, well then I'd say you're quite right about those views. Sorry for
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