From: Lucas Sheehan (lucassheehan@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jan 04 2008 - 02:17:14 MST
There is a fine line if any between the two. Picsao and the ear for
example. Of course one could chalk that up to wormwood, ah absinth my
friend....
On 1/3/08, Robin Gane-McCalla <robinganemccalla@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anybody think that psychedelics might be the drug that acts
> randomly upon intelligence, either increasing it or decreasing it?
> Some people go crazy and others have great insights.
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 11:29 PM, Anthony Tross <tonytross@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think that Shulgin and his wife are undoubtedly brave psychonauts and
> > should be greatly thanked for their tireless efforts. As well, I don't
> think
> > that there is any question that triptamines, ergotamines, and various
> other
> > neuroactive substances are in some way responsible for our ability to be
> > insightful. It is widely accepted that psychedelics can precipitate
> > synesthesic states, and must have contributed intrinsically to our sense
> of
> > beauty. I imagine that we would still be unicameral (biblically, please!)
> > were it not for drugs, fire, and so language.
> >
> > Nootropics are an entirely different kettle of brain-bath goodies,
> primarily
> > intended for optimal function in the present, and perhaps after the
> results
> > of longitudinal studies are tallied, valuable in neuroprotection as we
> age.
> > With computed intelligence we don't have to worry about ageing, as such,
> but
> > must consider instilling psychedelic or, more accurately, standalone
> > algorithmic creativity that runs as a complementary process.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2008 11:59 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 03/01/2008, Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The Shulgin phikal story seems to be an excellent example. From what I
> > > > can tell, Shulgin became a biochemist and started experimenting with
> > > > nootropics in the 1970s, meticulously recording experiences and
> results
> > > > starting with the smallest of dosages of each of his synthesized
> > > > compounds. Frankly, you have to be smart to not kill yourself.
> > > > Nootropical experimentalism is *not* for everyone.
> > >
> > > Mostly hallucinogens and stimulants rather than what is commonly
> > > referred to as nootropics. It's an almost unique example of
> > > systematic, rigorous research and self-experimentation in
> > > psychopharmacology. Predictably, Shulgin was prosecuted by the US DEA
> > > for his efforts.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stathis Papaioannou
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Robin Gane-McCalla
> YIM: Robin_Ganemccalla
> AIM: Robinganemccalla
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