From: Krekoski Ross (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Mar 03 2008 - 17:52:47 MST
I would argue that without any input or output that its not a meaningful
question. You say it simulates an apple, but it might just be a paperweight
since we have no objective means of determining if it is in fact simulating
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <email@example.com>
> On 04/03/2008, Krekoski Ross <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > I hope you dont mean what I think you do by self contained...
> > It would be almost akin to saying "I have an apple in front of me, it
> has no
> > properties and does not interact causally with anything in the universe,
> > its definately there."
> I have a computer in front of me of bizarre alien manufacture which
> simulates a day in the life of an apple. I don't understand its
> architecture and there is no I/O which would allow me to test it. The
> aliens all died when their sun went nova after they launched the
> computer into space. Even if we could find some sort of pattern in the
> internal workings of the computer it is impossible to assign meaning
> to the pattern, just as it would be impossible (not just very
> difficult) to divine the meaning of the English word "apple" without
> any other information. So, does the computer still simulate the apple?
> Stathis Papaioannou
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