Re: Value of Objective vs. Value of Subjective

From: John K Clark (
Date: Mon Mar 10 2008 - 09:37:23 MDT

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:21:52 -0700, "Lee Corbin" <>

> I grant that your subjective experience (or "subjectivity"
> if you insist on a noun)

I donít. Despite what some idiot dictionary may say subjectivity, like
consciousness or John K Clark is an adjective, an adjective referring to
a property matter has when it is organized in certain ways.

> is the most important thing in the world
> to you.

Thank you.

> Actually, for me, mine is not. I can imagine
> sacrificing the quality of my subjective
> experience for a number of things.

I can too, ah imagination, yet another wonderful SUBJECTIVE experience.

> Objectivity---the process of trying to be
> objective---is important for many, many reasons.
> It's our road to the truth.

Yes, unless the truth concerns something I know from direct experience,
like subjectivity. If you had an objective proof that I was not
conscious I canít see any reason I should waste valuable brain cells
reading the dumb thing. I have no objective proof I have properly
understood your objective proof, there could be an error in it I failed
to spot.
I donít even have an objective proof that what my eyes are telling me is
what you actually wrote; and besides, I have something far more
important than a trivial little objective proof that outranks everything
else even logic, direct experience.

 John K Clark

  John K Clark
-- - Or how I learned to stop worrying and
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