Re: Friendliness successfully IMPLEMENTED!

From: mwaser@cox.net
Date: Wed Mar 19 2008 - 15:54:34 MDT


> 1). Your email's subject line is obviously misleading. The primary
> concern is how to make Friendly AIs, not Friendly humans.

Oh, come on . . . . given that *no one* has an AI nor expects to have one this year, you have absolutely no excuse for being mislead by the title. The *only* intelligent machine that I possibly could have implemented Friendliness on is a human being. This is an intelligent first step to implementing it on a future AI.

How am I not addressing the/*your* primary concern?

How is the subject line misleading -- given that it is already longer than the visible field of my webmail page?

Me thinks thou doth protest far too much. Why does this bother you so much? Are you afraid of being infected with a meme that enforces ethics?

> 2). Please provide some evidence to the list that you haven't
> committed any immoral acts since declaring Friendliness, which is a
> rather audacious claim.

First, I have never made any claims about morals. I do not agree with most proclamations that most people make when they start using the word morals. The term is *ethics* -- many people might believe that they are synonymous but they have radically different connotations for many others.

Second, about the only proof that I can provide is to declare that I have not *knowingly* performed any unethical acts since being fully infected and challenge everyone to prove any evidence to the contrary. The problem with this "proof" is that I'd also say that I'm not sure that you could provide any evidence of me knowingly performing unethical acts in the last several *YEARS* -- so Friendliness hasn't visibly changed my personal *willingness* to act ethically AT ALL. I was previously willing to act ethically and pretty much always did so (to the extent that I can't remember not doing so in the past several years) and I remain that way.

Third, I can't think of any other evidence I could provide. Do you have any suggestions to help me?

> 3). The fragility of this type of cooperative Friendliness has been
> long since established in evolutionary biology.

What cooperative Friendliness? I'm not seeing any cooperation here at all. I asked for assistance. I said "If you believe that this is incorrect, *PLEASE* free me by showing me where this meme is harmful and rid me of my infection." You came back and attacked me for being misleading and then demanded proof that I was a good person.

> The system is
> vulnerable to anyone who wants to disrupt it. Mitigating this requires
> a huge technological or power advantage, which we don't currently
> have.

Prove your statement by freeing me of the meme or making me willingly perform an unethical act.

     Mark



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