**From:** B Ziomek (*bziomek@gmail.com*)

**Date:** Wed Jul 23 2008 - 04:59:28 MDT

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In that case I'll break it down, all in the case that a positive singularity

does, in fact, occur:

Physic humans with minimal upgrades or direct uploads: I'd say that if a

singularity of any kind does occur there will be some intelligences left

which are regonizable in cognizance. Whether existing in a sandbox

simulating the current world or fleeing the inner system, who knows, but I

find it extremely unlikely that any AI wouldn't want to keep at least a few

of its creators around, at least in a stored form for study.I may be making

a dangerous assumption here, but it seems unlikely that a logical being

would destroy something that may come in useful in the future in exchange

for a comparatively miniscule amount of storage space (heck at worst our

genome is what, 5 MB? at least the plans to make a human would be seemingly

guaranteed to survive and singularity).

But beyond this, how much will our true successors resemble today's

humanity? I think it's impossible to make a concrete guess, but that the

lower boundary of similarity is pretty far away.Uploaded humans will just be

emulations of running on vastly superior hardware. As anyone who's ever run

a hardware emulator on a modern computer knows, the amount of processing

power it takes is usually far larger than the processing power the hardware

being emulated had, and hence the process is very inefficient. At the very

least the uploaded humans would modify themselves to execute more natively

on whatever hardware exists, and once the self-tampering starts, when will

it stop?

-Bziomek-

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