Re: [sl4] Re: goals of AI.

From: Matt Paul (lizardblue@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Nov 24 2009 - 22:21:15 MST


On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:34 PM, "John K Clark" <johnkclark@fastmail.fm>
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 "Matt Paul" <lizardblue@gmail.com> said:
>
>> There are aspects of our "intelligence" that I think may not truly be
>> physical, not a neurochemical process, not a logic system that can be
>> mathematically represented.
>
> I am not surprised, nearly everybody would agree with you because
> nearly
> everybody believes in the soul even if they don't like the word very
> much. I don't.

I'm not talking about a soul.
>
>> What about motivations such as compassion, comfort, hate, love,
>> fear of death, desire to defeat an enemy, etc.
>
> I wish I understood why people assume that emotions are harder to
> replicate than intelligence when evolution found the opposite to be
> true.
>
>> It seems to me that there is much about our intelligence that has
>> little to do with our grey matter
>> other than being a receiver of some sort.
>
> As I said I'm one of those rare weirdos who think the idiotic idea
> of a
> soul should have died in the middle ages, or better yet in prehistory.
>
Again, not talking about a soul.
>
>> I see no discussion of morphogenetic fields and how those are a
>> part of our intelligence.
>
> It's true we don't talk about that much, let's see what the dictionary
> has to say about it:
>
> morphogenetic field: môrf&#601;j&#601;&#712;netik f&#275;ld
>
> noun
> A huge stinking pile of putrid shit.
>
> Thesaurus:
>
> I just steped into this morphogenetic field and now it's all over my
> shoe. Excrement. Manure. Fecal material.
>
>
>> What about intuition, what about imagination?
>
> What about them?
>
>> How would one mimic imagination?
>
> By presenting alternatives.
>
>> How would one mimic dreams/desires
>
> Superbly.
>
>> How would you model our non-local features (assuming they really are
>> non-local)? Why would a super AI want to go to work everyday any
>> more than we do?
>> Why would a super AI give even a shred of doodoo about us?
>
> Unfortunately I am not allowed to answer further because you have
> exceeded your allowed ration of question marks.
>
> John K Clark
>
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