From: Matt Paul (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Nov 25 2009 - 20:15:30 MST
I don't think that replacing my brain with a cpu would necessarily
remove what I'm talking about. It depends. If it is part of the brain
I would say yes. If not then having a CPU that can't interface with it
might functionally but not actually remove it.
On Nov 25, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Matt Mahoney <email@example.com> wrote:
>> By non-physical I am trying to label that which is real but cannot
>> currently be measured or detected.
> Like, for example, that thing that makes you different from a
> philosophical zombie? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
> Or if I removed your brain, ground it to a pulp, and then replaced
> it with a computer that had exactly the same behavior so that nobody
> could detect any change in the behavior of your body, then you mean
> that invisible thing that is now missing from you?
> Is it the thing you so desperately want to preserve, because like
> all animals, you have evolved to fear the hundreds of different
> things that can kill you? If it weren't for those strong emotions,
> would you even need such a concept?
> -- Matt Mahoney, firstname.lastname@example.org
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Matt Paul <email@example.com>
> To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com>
> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 6:38:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [sl4] Re: goals of AI... non physical components of
> mind != soul
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Stathis Papaioannou
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> How do you figure that quantum phenomena are "non physical" when they
>> are the basis of all physics? Also, quantum computers don't actually
>> do anything that classical computers don't do, such as computing
>> non-computable functions.
> Ok, I see a problem arising here. I used the term "non-physical" and
> I think that I should clarify that this is because I struggle to
> find another term for it. I don't think it is the best term and I
> hope we don't get too hung up on it. By non-physical I am trying to
> label that which is real but cannot currently be measured or detected.
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