Re: [sl4] An idea to allow everything to exist

From: Mindaugas Indriunas (inyuki@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 28 2010 - 15:38:44 MST


> is this really what you want, a world with magic genies that grant your
every wish?

I seek for omniscience, so that I would know everything, and that there
would be no things new to me, and that the time would stop existing to me
(because of absence of new things), and that is my preferred way to stop
existing.

> Meanwhile, back in the real world, self replicating agents that can't
reprogram their goals will be evolving and competing for the resources
needed to run your dream world.

We are not sure weather our universe size is really finite or infinite.
Quantum computing suggests new computational capabilities. We do not know
what future breakthroughs will bring. It is not unimaginable that we will be
able to have the computational resources necessary to simulate worlds
satisfying the needs of most of the entities.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Matt Mahoney <matmahoney@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > I think, you have the resources and technology to start experimenting
> with this today.
>
> I think they won't for awhile. But I am sure that LindenLab is interested
> in technology to make Second Life more realistic, and other game makers will
> if they don't. Natasha Vita-More's recent paper on neural plasticity
> suggests that total immersion in virtual worlds won't require perfect
> brain-machine interfaces. We will learn to ignore the signals that leak in
> from the real world.
>
> But is this really what you want, a world with magic genies that grant your
> every wish? Well, I guess so. Those are the goals that evolution programmed
> into your brain. They worked well enough to propagate your DNA in a world
> without AI. But surprisingly, it doesn't work when you can actually have
> everything you want. If happiness means an increase in utility, then you
> reach a maximum because all real computers in this finite universe are
> finite state machines. In that maximum, any thought or perception would be
> unpleasant because it would result in a different mental state with lower
> utility. Meanwhile, back in the real world, self replicating agents that
> can't reprogram their goals will be evolving and competing for the resources
> needed to run your dream world.
>
>
> -- Matt Mahoney, matmahoney@yahoo.com
>
>
> *From:* Mindaugas Indriunas <inyuki@gmail.com>
> *To:* sl4@sl4.org
> *Sent:* Sun, December 26, 2010 4:29:39 PM
> *Subject:* [sl4] An idea to allow everything to exist
>
> Hello,
>
> today I have sent the following idea to LindenLab (SecondLife creators).
> The idea is to have an array of computers to simulate the worlds/wonderlands
> of our preference, which would eventually be taken care of by robots of our
> own design, as we travel across the universe. Would you have any ideas about
> it, that would be interesting to know your comments.
>
> ------- LETTER -------
> Today, when there exists many political and ideological differences across
> different nations, the world needs a common goal. However, due to
> persistence of various national and religious institutions, their wishes and
> goals are contradictory, and are unlikely to change as long as the ideology
> of these conflicting institutions will not change.
>
> However, we, as mankind, need a common goal as never before. I think, the
> virtual worlds, and the technology behind them, is what could bring about a
> solution, and a long-term goal, which could be pursued immediately. So, here
> it goes:
>
> Imagine the world, which consists of a potentially infinite array of very
> powerful computers, each of which is separate, and dedicated to create
> unique virtual realities for each of us individuals, in accordance to the
> type of life we wish to have. The computes would be connected to human
> brain, and the human bodies maintained by other individuals (this
> potentially could be especially attractive for those who have a wealthy
> retirement plans, and difficulties to move one's own body). However, in the
> long run, the target would be to have robots to maintain the computers and
> human bodies. The robots would repair, replace and improve these computers,
> as well as take care of their safety, and supply of resources, as we (with
> Earth) would all travel across the universe.
>
> Assuming that we create robots could ensure our existence with very high
> certainty, our action or inaction would have no significant effect to
> ensuring our survival, and we would have the freedom to live lives in the
> worlds that we prefer, which would be limited only by he computational power
> of each computer simulating an individual’s world. The goal that such
> conglomerate of computers, robots and people would pursue, is to convert the
> Universe into a structure that allows existence of every conceivable entity,
> in the full expression of its dreams, and with or without the awareness that
> there exists an outside world that ensures the stability and quality of the
> inner (simulated)
> worlds.
>
> Hopefully, this would allow mankind to cooperate on a completely new level,
> independent of what individual values they have, because this would be the
> structure that preserves the values, dream-worlds of us all.
>
> Today, we have movies (and some interactive movies) that already allow us
> to experience a glimpse of the beauty of various dream-worlds.
>
> What the realisation of many-worlds idea would allow us, is to preserve our
> ancient, modern and our newly created worlds, cultures, with their own
> beauty, in the array of wonderlands, which we could live in, without the
> fear of extinction of us, or any of them.
>
>
> I think, you have the resources and technology to start experimenting with
> this today.
> ------- LETTER -------
>
> --
> Mindaugas Indriūnas
> http://universians.org
>
>



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