Re: Fundamentals - was RE: Visualizing muddled volitions

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Fri Jun 18 2004 - 02:33:11 MDT

It doesn't require people to be uploaded exactly, but the difference
may be subtle. If we had full physiological records including
mental backups and MNT, it shouldn't be possible to rebuild a
duplicate body and reinstall the full mind state as of the recording.

A more sublte variant would be a techno-reincarnation into some
different body (possibly infant) with some "essence" of the mental
state of the person, possibly with the ability to regain more of the
lost state.

Neither of these requires actual uploads. If the recording methods
were subtle enough (full nanotech should be able to handle it), people
would not necessarily know they had been scanned. Of course you
would like to have their permission.

- samantha

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:09:58 +1000, Philip Sutton
<> wrote:
> Hi Samantha,
> I agree that having backups would be a good thing if there's a coercive
> collective 'volition' machine at work. But it seems to me that this
> implies people would have to have been uploaded. I find it hard to
> imagine a rewind button working on humans who have not been
> uploaded
> What do you do in relation to people who don't wish to be uploaded.
> Would you think they should be forceably uploaded or would you favour
> them being allowed to opt out of the regime of change run by the
> coercive collective 'volition' machine?
> Cheers, Philip

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