From: mike99 (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sun Oct 29 2006 - 20:05:55 MST
I'm confident that many people are still reading this list, but like me, are
experiencing a crush of work-related events that preclude extended email
postings to many of the lists to which we subscribe.
Just wait. Eventually the dam will break and a flood of messages will wash
into your in-box.
From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of ps udoname
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: JOIN
It appears people have got bored with what I was saying - I should not
have mentioned that Penrose thinks the mind is nonalgorithmic.
On the other hand, I don't think anyone is saying anything on this list.
Maybe we did miss the rapture... so the singularity isn't a expanding sphere
of computronium eh?
On 23/10/06, R. W. <email@example.com> wrote:
Is anyone here anymore or did I miss the Rapture?
Russell Wallace <firstname.lastname@example.org > wrote:
On 9/29/06, ps udoname <email@example.com> wrote:
An upload requires somewhere from a roomful to a buildingful of
computers; it can't run over a wide area cluster, the bandwidth is far too
slow. Therefore it's sessile and highly dependent on the biological humans
maintaining the equipment; it can't so much as sneeze without permission.
Wouldn't this apply equally to AIs?
Yep. With the caveat that an AI could be designed so that certain
subtasks - search in particular - can be factored out over high-latency
links (so the individual nodes could be separated by large distances). But
there is no reason to believe all or even most of an AI could run at useful
speed over such links.
The brain shows an ability to repair itself and grow, an upload
should also be able to.
Sure. But brains don't ascend to godhood overnight (not in the
material universe anyway!) and there's no evidence an upload would be able
I would think it more likely that uploads are either illegal or
not recognised by the law as alive.
I certainly wouldn't rule out either of those possibilities.
Fair enough, but there are many technologies that are more dominant
then people thought as well.
It would appear that we have reached the limits of what it is
possible to achieve with computer technology, although one should be careful
with such statements, as they tend to sound pretty silly in 5 years.
- Von Neumann
Do I need to dig up the quotes from that era about how human-level AI
was going to be achieved by the year 2000? :)
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