Re: Animal Consciousness (was Mindless Thought Experiments)

From: Krekoski Ross (
Date: Thu Mar 06 2008 - 22:21:36 MST

 Lee Corbin <> wrote:

> Oh yes, we do. I suggest the books "Kanzi: The Ape at the Brink of the
> Human Mind", or parts of "The First Word" (by Christine Kenneally),
> just two that spring to mind of many.
> And there are many other books and essays that make extremely reasonable
> to surmise that animals are conscious to one degree or another, on any
> normal
> or usual meaning of the term. We ought not to suppose that on one fine
> day
> a hundred thousand years ago consciousness just suddenly appeared.
> Also, it's very clear that Helen Keller was conscious while entirely deaf,
> blind, and dumb, and before finding a teacher who communicated with her
> via touch.

Agreed. The estimate was to be conservative.

Not to mention the fact that attributing a 'soul' or the modern equivalent
to humans and not animals is largely a judaeo-christian tendency and
traceable largely to that tradition.



> Lee

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