Re: [sl4] Re: Uploads coming first would be good, right?.

From: Matt Mahoney (
Date: Sun Feb 22 2009 - 14:04:38 MST

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Lucas Sheehan <> wrote:

> Actually I do believe that I am conscious (because I am
> programmed that way) and I also believe that I am not
> conscious (because there would be absolutely no change in my
> behavior if I was). I realize that these two positions are
> inconsistent, and just leave it at that.
> -- Matt Mahoney,
> Well that's no fun. Why not try to understand this
> further and apply your findings to your life approach.
> Being one who believes I am conscious (because I was
> programmed that way) and believes I am conscious (because I
> do think there would be a difference if I wasn't) I am
> curious why you avoid this problem. It seems a man of logic
> and rigorous pursuit of "truth" or at least
> "high probability" would not feel comfortable with
> this internal state. Just curious.

I think if you think about the problem long enough you will come to the same conclusion. If I really didn't believe in my own consciousness, then I would have no reason to live (or upload), and I wouldn't be arguing with you now. OTOH, I know what an upload is.

-- Matt Mahoney,

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